tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post113020969158405853..comments2024-03-18T05:17:45.683-05:00Comments on <a href="http://ionarts.blogspot.com/">Ionarts</a>: The Mines of SulphurCharles T. Downeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14978821617871429169noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131977491145500032005-11-14T09:11:00.000-05:002005-11-14T09:11:00.000-05:00Found your comment, Mr Pieler. Thank you.Well, as...Found your comment, Mr Pieler. Thank you.<BR/><BR/>Well, as you state, significant art can come from the riskiness of the interface of politics and culture. Of course, it is a slippery slope. I, for one, will accept a higher level of beta (risk) in order to foster/encourage greater artistic accomplishment. Others may be content with our national culture which in the past 25 years allowed for Garth Trinklhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11084463787729969177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131587710624856892005-11-09T20:55:00.000-05:002005-11-09T20:55:00.000-05:00Those who pay more have more say, no doubt, but th...Those who pay more have more say, no doubt, but that applies to the govt as well: in US politics that can be a risky proposition when interfacing with culture, EXCEPT when public $$ go to support institutions generally as supplement to private contributions. As to affirmative action it's just that American opera isn't discriminated against, but on average not quite good enough. It's as though Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131568074865525042005-11-09T15:27:00.000-05:002005-11-09T15:27:00.000-05:00Thank you, Mr Pieler, for your strong recommendati...Thank you, Mr Pieler, for your strong recommendation for Frank Martin "Der Sturm". <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, I do not know the full opera, but only the 20 minutes, or so, available on a Chandos recording (from the mid-1990s), and, I believe, a DDG recording reissued from the 1970s. I envy you that you have experienced live what is probably truly a neglected masterpiece. (I do know his Masses, andGarth Trinklhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11084463787729969177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131564141756674982005-11-09T14:22:00.000-05:002005-11-09T14:22:00.000-05:00Mr. Trinkl, the charitable deduction is available ...Mr. Trinkl, the charitable deduction is available to most taxpayers, not just wealthy, and is expressly designed to minimize the state interference in charitable/cultural ventures associated with direct subsidies.<BR/><BR/>Further, affirmative action as a concept is only about individuals deemed members of groups deemed historically denied full equality, and has only been slightly limited by Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131547855512950342005-11-09T09:50:00.000-05:002005-11-09T09:50:00.000-05:00Heave ho... Jens, have you written to Michael Sonn...Heave ho... <BR/><BR/>Jens, have you written to Michael Sonnenreich and Placido Domingo requesting that they consider mounting Pfitzer's Palestrina in lieu of Maw's Sophie's Choice, in 2007? I, on the other hand, will dutifully, and respectfully -- and with some sense of aesthetic interest -- look forward to the WNO mounting, in 2007, of Sophie's Choice (and not the WNO reviving Floyd's Of Mice Garth Trinklhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11084463787729969177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131547418240155432005-11-09T09:43:00.000-05:002005-11-09T09:43:00.000-05:00The NEA entire budget is smaller than the expenses...The NEA entire budget is smaller than the expenses of the opera house in <I>Oberschweinbach</I> or <I>Hinterrummelberg</I>. I am not sure if Caldara would be my first choice, but I'd be excited if we got any. We might be able to hope for the Washington Concert Opera to do baroque opera in the near future, though!jflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03017753357752263113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131513183495796652005-11-09T00:13:00.000-05:002005-11-09T00:13:00.000-05:00And, yes, oh please, a Baroque opera, WNO. Given h...And, yes, oh please, a Baroque opera, WNO. Given how well Caldara held up against Handel in <A HREF="http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2005/10/cecilia-bartoli-at-kennedy-center.html" REL="nofollow">La Bartoli's selection of arias</A>, maybe Caldara?Charles T. Downeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14978821617871429169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131512980497223212005-11-09T00:09:00.000-05:002005-11-09T00:09:00.000-05:00A small correction: both the Met and WNO receive f...A small correction: both the Met and WNO receive funding from the National Endowment for the Arts, but nothing on the level of most European companies, I think. Your point about their nature as businesses is well taken. Given that Baltimore Opera has almost folded this season, opera in the United States is obviously a risky business.Charles T. Downeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14978821617871429169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131510002713812792005-11-08T23:20:00.000-05:002005-11-08T23:20:00.000-05:00Now that you ask... Yes. Of course I'd take "Pales...Now that you ask... Yes. Of course I'd take "Palestrina" over "Sophies' Choice". I'd be insane, not to. Aside, this is about me, and MY taste - the public be damned. I am just expressing my likes - and quite frankly this debate is silly in lieu of another Tosca and Aida and no Lully and no Rameau. We need better Opera, not bickering about how modern is modern enough or whether it ought to be jflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03017753357752263113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131471018969027492005-11-08T12:30:00.000-05:002005-11-08T12:30:00.000-05:00zemlinskyzemlinskyGarth Trinklhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11084463787729969177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131470791982482842005-11-08T12:26:00.000-05:002005-11-08T12:26:00.000-05:00schrecker... zemlinsky... von schillings... pfitzn...<I>schrecker... zemlinsky... von schillings... pfitzner... henze... braunfels</I> <BR/><BR/>This is fair and concise, Jens. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>Now, lets go deeper. I have posted elsewhere pointing to what I perceive to be the quality of Henze's L'Upupa and his The Sailer Who Fell from Grace with the Sea. I have advocated that the MET do the L'Upupa, and that some American company -- perhaps theGarth Trinklhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11084463787729969177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131431175313531902005-11-08T01:26:00.000-05:002005-11-08T01:26:00.000-05:00i notice that this comment section does not have a...i notice that this comment section does not have a maximum word limit... maybe for the better (here), maybe for the worse (see a less insightful exchange above). after reading HH's list, I am tempted back into the euro-camp that garth had me in. schrecker... zemlinsky... von schillings... pfitzner... henze... braunfels - i'll trade several 'shadowtimes' for those -- even if i think that opera jflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03017753357752263113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131382039355757162005-11-07T11:47:00.000-05:002005-11-07T11:47:00.000-05:00By the way, I think the San Franciso Opera did Tho...By the way, I think the San Franciso Opera did Thomson and Stein's feminist "Mother of Us All", instead of "Four Saints in Three Acts". My comment on the SFO doing this non-sensical type of work remains valid, none the less. (Charles I think might disagree. He is younger and more open to the non-sensical and surreal.)Garth Trinklhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11084463787729969177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131380124619892092005-11-07T11:15:00.000-05:002005-11-07T11:15:00.000-05:00Something told me that I should have checked back ...Something told me that I should have checked back in here after my hour long nap on a hidden bench at Dumbarton Oaks Garden on Friday afternoon, and return visits to the garden two times on Sunday afternoon in lieu of the projected opera on the Mall. (On Saturday, I was planning to take the bus to NYC to see the "Mines of Sulphur" matinee, but the previous evening I mistakenly opened, all at onceGarth Trinklhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11084463787729969177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131254914741224492005-11-06T00:28:00.000-05:002005-11-06T00:28:00.000-05:00Ooh, this is a good argument. I would like to hear...Ooh, this is a good argument. I would like to hear more American operas (more in the vein of Bolcom's <EM>A Wedding</EM> and Danielpour's <EM>Margaret Garner</EM> than Wheeler's <EM>Democracy</EM>, I have to say). At the same time, I would be ecstatic to hear any of the operas Henry's list, too. Am I perverse?Charles T. Downeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14978821617871429169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131236214862647192005-11-05T19:16:00.000-05:002005-11-05T19:16:00.000-05:00Garth, you're "Zeno" over at S21, aren't you? That...Garth, you're "Zeno" over at S21, aren't you? That's almost verbatim what you wrote over there, but that thread slipped off the front page and so it's died in the comments section.<BR/><BR/>So what if the major companies don't make some silly agreement to do an American opera every year? You could do that and go through the viable, quality American pieces in about 5 or 6 seasons unless you startAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131165171052623012005-11-04T23:32:00.000-05:002005-11-04T23:32:00.000-05:00I am too old world to champion living music of the...I am too old world to champion living music of the country of which I am a guest? I must object. I might even say that my blood is 'Boyling'. ;)jflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03017753357752263113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5607352.post-1131115941906033412005-11-04T09:52:00.000-05:002005-11-04T09:52:00.000-05:00Charles, thank you for assembling this material an...Charles, thank you for assembling this material and for your final editorial remark. Indeed, how are American opera companies going to attract "the young and neophytes" when some of America's most distinguished opera companies -- such as the San Francisco Opera and the MET -- still haven't committed themselves, in the 21st century, to producing one American opera <I>each and every season</I>!<BRGarth Trinklhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11084463787729969177noreply@blogger.com